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daudio
Starting in the driveway
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 Posted - 22 Mar 2008 : 4:41:33 PM
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Hi All,
I have just a simple question. (After having a twit mechanic bust the bottom tank of my radiator and try to cover it up.)
Is it possible to install a series 2 radiator into a series 1 VN?
Or is best that I just get a replacement bottom tank section of the rediator and replace that. (Even though after an Ebay search i've come up nil)
I figure by the time I get a mechanic to install the bottom tank section i might as well get a new series 2 radiator off ebay for about $100.
If anyone could suggest a good mechanic in the Taringa area (QLD) that would be greatly appreciated also.
Thanks in advance.
DA
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trizo
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Posted - 22 Mar 2008 : 4:55:06 PM
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do you have a s1 or s2 motor? I have fitted a s1 rad to my s2 motor, but unless you can bypass the heater hoses and find a rad hose long enough to reach the thermostat housing ( if its a s1 motor t/h is at back of motor ) you can get good conditi0on rads from a wreckers that have been flushed and seviced , pressure tested ect.. for around $100. I couldnt c the benifit in buyin a rad thats not suited for that motor, unless your a cheap arse like me and had 1 in the shed and made it fit  I suggest buy a second handy from a reliable wrecker you will proberly find trying to get another tank for it might be a bit more expensive! Hope that helps ya out!
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trizo
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Posted - 22 Mar 2008 : 4:58:49 PM
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| also to do the rad ya self takes about 10 mins, dont get a mech to do it !!!!!! take the fan of, unclip the top clips that hold the rad in undo the hoses and tranny cooler lines and lift out , installin is the same.. but in reverse.. |
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daudio
Starting in the driveway
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Posted - 22 Mar 2008 : 6:44:19 PM
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Thanks for that.
How can i determine whether it is an S1 or S2 motor. I remember discussions with someone saying that is it an S1 due to there being one water tank either side of the radiator and the S2 only having the one.
The only reason for wanting to replace the radiator. (Well the bottom tank outlet hose is what is actually just broken) The mechainic was replacing the Crank angle sensor and coil and then tell me after the job has been finished that there is a leak in my bottom tank outlet and they having tried to seal it up with some resin. Obvoiusly they were leaning on it to replace the coil and broke the bloody thing.
The only thing that needs replacing is the top outlet on the bottom tank on the right hand side of the radiator. Unless someone else can come up with any suggestions I'm just going to buy a whole new rad and get it replaced.
My confidence in installing a whole new rad is very low but I do have a Hregorys maintenance manual that I might check out.
Thanks for your help again.
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2DIE
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Posted - 22 Mar 2008 : 11:55:38 PM
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| Series 1 have the hose from the radiator going to the back of the motor, if you stand side on and look under the throttle body you should see the hose if it is a series 1, if not then its a series 2. |
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trizo
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 11:53:19 AM
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| there are a few differences, the s1 motors have a stainless pipe running along the drivers side of the motor also the coil pak on the s1 has 6 seperate units were as the s2 has 3, the s2 rad also has a tank filler on the rad it self were as the s1 has a tank to the side of car top of the relays..... and as 2die sed the thermo housing is at the back of the motor on the s1 and at the front on the s2, other differences that are bit more harder to notice is the injectors on the s2 are bigger than on the s1 same goes for the manifold cover, also the s2 throttle body came out with a bell mouth to settle down the revs abit , the s1 didnt hence its balls out approach! I'm sure theres more I missed but thats a few ways to tell the 2 apart!!!! |
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daudio
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 2:51:45 PM
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Doesn't have a filler on the tank itself so it looks like it is a S1.
I've had a flick through my Gregorys book and it looks as tho it only has instructions for the S2. But judging by the clips on the side I should have no issues taking out the fan and disconnecting the hoses.
I'll let you know how i go. |
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trizo
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 5:31:46 PM
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| if its a s1 the clips are on top squeeze and pull, the whole lot will come out! |
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nodg
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 6:25:53 PM
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| yeah a s1 raditator will work in a series 2, just get the right hoses and overflow bottle as the radiators use the same clip design to hold them in place. youll probably get away with using the existing radiator hoses or if need be get the proper upper hose as well |
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trizo
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 7:20:42 PM
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I did my s1 rad into my s2 motor, the trick is to use a t- peice and a few extra joiners, you just have to muck around abit.
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wasa
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 03:54:10 AM
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| i don't mean to dig up an old thread but i have a question along the same lines.. i have a series I and was wondering can you fix a series 2 cooling system(meaning the lot radiator surge tank overflow etc) to a series 1 VN? any info would be extremely helpful. I've been told that the series 2 system was better but correct me if i'm wrong. Also if there is a cheap alternative that is alot better than this like a v8 system or something i'd like to know aswell as my surge tank is shagged and id rather do the lot at the same time. Thanks in advance. |
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Grandtheftholden
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 12:41:24 PM
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| I hate the differences between series I and series II... especially since my exec is a lucky old series 1.5! trizo is right though... with a few minor modifications a SII radiator will slip nicely into a SI car! |
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trizo
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Posted - 30 Apr 2008 : 09:49:16 AM
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the s1 rad will also fit into a s2 engine with a bit of fiddling you just have to bypass the heater !
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