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YNV_M3
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 Posted - 12 Jul 2007 : 1:08:42 PM
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hi there i recently brought a new dash cluster and the fuel and temp is showing perfectly i was wonder where the speed sensor was as i am thinking that is the problem fuses under dash are working perfectly so no problem there any help would be awsome
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nodg
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Posted - 12 Jul 2007 : 1:42:10 PM
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| you need a rebuild kit which is around 20 dollars, the little gears inside are screwed |
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YNV_M3
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Posted - 12 Jul 2007 : 3:12:41 PM
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| little gears inside what ? where is the speed sensor on the vn series 1 engine models ? |
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nodg
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Posted - 12 Jul 2007 : 4:33:43 PM
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| the speedo isnt working because the gears inside the cluster are broken, the speed sensor(transducer) is electronic and is not gear driven |
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YNV_M3
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Posted - 12 Jul 2007 : 4:53:36 PM
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The cluster has nothing wrong with it i tested it in my sisters vn same make and model as mine and it worked perfectly.This cluster has been approved by a qualified 2nd hand car parts dealer and he also found nothing wrong with it ?? if here is anyone that could help it would be alot of help ((Cluster IS in working order))
it's got to do with something else other then the cluster itself wires, sensors ect all fuses are new and no problem there |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 12 Jul 2007 : 6:18:29 PM
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Are you sure about that Nodg? I know the level 3 cluster speedo is not gear driven. I would be looking at the speed sensor myself. Is there a fault code present?? The code for speed sensor is 24. There is a thread in the 'How to section' on how to read your fault codes. I would be having a look at these before anything else. Check your codes and let me know if 24 is present and i will give you a test proceedure to find your fault. The speed sensor is located in the extension housing of your transmission.
@Nodg sorry to say it but your info is not 100% accurate. Yes the speed sensor is a transducer type which is gear driven via the transmission. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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vn_maniac_16
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Posted - 12 Jul 2007 : 6:46:51 PM
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mi speedo needs a wak on it head every time i start the car to get her running!
funny sometimes im driving and look and im goin 0km/hr lol |
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NOJ05H
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Posted - 12 Jul 2007 : 9:34:35 PM
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my fuel and temp play up on my lvl 1 cluster, dont know what that is, itll show full tank for a while, slowly drop and then drops rapidly between 3/4 and the red section and will give me around 100-150kms on red section... and the temp gauge doesnt go past 1 notch...
anyone know about that? |
Need assistance with modding my vn, please PM me ideas coz i dont really know what to do... |
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YNV_M3
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Posted - 12 Jul 2007 : 11:48:23 PM
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| thnxs for that info VNSVLE ill let you know how it goes once i check it out ok sometime 2morrow also if possible what does the speed sensor look like ? sorry to be a pain in the @$$ cheers buddy |
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nodg
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Posted - 13 Jul 2007 : 09:48:29 AM
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NOJo5H, pretty much 10/10 commodore clusters need to be re soldered to correct the sticky needles.
And by the way it sounds, your speedo stopped working after the new cluster? by the way you cant swap vr-vs clusters with vn-p if thats what has been done |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 13 Jul 2007 : 11:13:14 AM
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| With the temp guage not going past notch one i would be looking at your cooling system. i.e. your thermostat sounds like it is faulty and opening to soon not allowing the engine to reach operating temp. How is the fuel economy?? Usually when this is the case your fuel consumption will be a little bit more than usual. The bit nodg is talking about that may need to be re-soldered is usually the 5 volt voltage regulator for the instrument cluster which is positioned inside your actual cluster. You will need to remove the guages from the cluster to get at it. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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nodg
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Posted - 13 Jul 2007 : 11:26:00 AM
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just about every single vn-p suffers from the temp gauge only registering on 1 notch(or none), even with no thermostat the motor will still heat up but will take longer and confuses the ecu and cause it to run with the 'choke' on.
@vnsvle, im very positive that the trnsducer is elexctronic, will take photos when i change transmissions this weekend |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 13 Jul 2007 : 12:48:05 PM
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| Yes it is electronic but i think you will find that it is gear driven. Let us know what you find nodg. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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nodg
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Posted - 13 Jul 2007 : 1:05:02 PM
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| to tell you the truth i have only pulled them out and replaced them i havent looked inside! but when you think about it, if only the level 3 cluster had a gear driven transducer and i needed a new auto for my 'calais' for arguments sake, i wouldnt go and ask for a calais gearbox. youd just ask for a vn whatever series it is one! |
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YNV_M3
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Posted - 13 Jul 2007 : 3:57:02 PM
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| ok will somebody please tell me what the speed sensor looks like as i am told that is near the transmition in the center dash . . |
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nodg
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Posted - 13 Jul 2007 : 5:11:35 PM
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| its on the side of the box, will have a rubber boot and wires feeding to it |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 13 Jul 2007 : 6:03:34 PM
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| on the left hand side of the transmission at the end of the extension housing(which is the end of the tranny that the tail shaft joins to) |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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YNV_M3
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Posted - 13 Jul 2007 : 10:34:13 PM
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ok thanks dudes ill check it out 2morrow had work today will keep ya's posted cheers
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trizo
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Posted - 14 Jul 2007 : 10:54:59 AM
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| lol the sensor is the most sh1ttiest thing holden has come out with!! The little wires are always breaking on them! |
3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead |
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NOJ05H
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Posted - 18 Jul 2007 : 10:30:17 AM
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im going to get a new cluster, hopefully a custom stage 3 one... if it still doesnt work after that then ill check the sensors and wires... hopefully there arent any problems...
also does anyone know what thread had the link to the clusters?? cant find it.... :( |
Need assistance with modding my vn, please PM me ideas coz i dont really know what to do... |
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nodg
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Posted - 18 Jul 2007 : 11:27:41 AM
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| you can install the level 3 clster bu the led display wonr work until you install yjr other sensors for it |
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trizo
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NOJ05H
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Posted - 18 Jul 2007 : 10:48:20 PM
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sweet thanx trizo..
what are the other sensors i need and how much am i looking at paying?
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Need assistance with modding my vn, please PM me ideas coz i dont really know what to do... |
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nodg
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 02:39:09 AM
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| you need the wires/sensors for the ecu, the fuel tank and the transmission |
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YNV_M3
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 10:23:46 AM
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| its kewl i got my speedo fixed i replaced the wires and away it went thnxs for the help guys cheers |
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trizo
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 6:44:59 PM
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| good 1 m8! |
3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead |
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