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SWEET
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 Posted - 27 Jan 2007 : 7:31:28 PM
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sorry guys i didnt mean to say bout burn out Q didnt think that wasnt allowed on here k wont ask anything that is illegal i was just cerious. and yes i know it does kill cars. my bad oops again. b4dn xxxx
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driveacarsideways
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Posted - 27 Jan 2007 : 7:54:46 PM
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burnouts are illegal????
now what am i going to do...?
shhhhh....i wont tell if you wont....
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David
The Guru
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Posted - 27 Jan 2007 : 8:14:49 PM
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| Burn outs as such are not banned, just the ones on public roads (which carparks are counted as public roads). Unless it is at a registered track, you will find that you can end up loosing your license and car under the hoon laws, and not to mention the fines that you will need to pay. |
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SWEET
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Posted - 27 Jan 2007 : 8:33:55 PM
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| yh but the place where i mentioned i was doing a burnout at bout 1am and we saw the cops drive past and they made a u-turn and they didnt do anything so i would think where i did it was aloud and that happened wen the hoon laws have applied already so if som1 in noble park no where im talking bout u mite know or can u find out if u can do it there cos im cerious now its on chelthnam road from parkmore shops heading to dandenong shops its next to the servo in the day time ppl learn to drive there its not even a carpark. pls reply on this 1 cos i would love to know... b4dn xxxx |
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David
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Posted - 27 Jan 2007 : 8:44:24 PM
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Quick search of google and came up with this: http://www.trafficlaw.com.au/your.rights.htmlquote:
A highway is legally defined as any place where the public may legally drive or park a motor vehicle, and it also includes all road reserves, nature strips, footpaths, cycle paths etc.
You must stop your vehicle if requested to do so by a police member, and you must obey any lawful direction given to you by a police member.
You must state your name and address when requested by a police member.
You must produce your driver's licence on request (if you do not have it on you, you have seven days to produce your full drivers licence to a police station)
You must be licenced to drive a motor vehicle on a highway. Penalty: a possible prison sentence if driving whilst disqualified or suspended.
The vast majority of traffic offences apply specifically to driving on a "highway".
They do not care on what time of the day it is, if caught, and they want to, they can make you life hell. |
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driveacarsideways
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Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 11:03:20 PM
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i've noticed that sometimes a cop may turn a blind eye if you are keeping it away from general public, but that is very rare.
as a general rule...if the cops catch u they'll book you...just like dave said
"They do not care on what time of the day it is, if caught, and they want to, they can make you life hell."
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mouce
National Driver
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Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 11:41:15 PM
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Just because you have gotten away with it, does not mean that it's okay to do it folks.
When I was younger and much more foolish, I once exceeded a speed limit by enough to land me in jail for 12 months if I had of been caught. It was only by good luck that I didn't get caught. Did I get caught? No. Was it legal? HELL NO!
Allowing for the fact that cameras are popping up everywhere (security camera footage from shopping carparks CAN be used by police to issue Traffic Infringment Notices) the chances that you get caught are becoming greater and greater.
As for the quote that David posted above, the fourth point isn't entirely true.
According to the Road Safety Act 1986 - Part 6 - Section 59 - Sub section 3
(3) A person, other than a person who holds a
probationary driver licence or who is driving or in
charge of a large vehicle in respect of which
section 19(5) applies or who has been issued with
a driver licence under an order of the Magistrates'
Court made on an application under section 50(4),
who fails to produce for inspection his or her
driver licence document or permit document is not
guilty of an offence if that person—
(a) gives a reasonable excuse for the failure; and
(b) provides a specimen of his or her signature;
and
(c) within 7 days produces his or her driver
licence document or permit document at the
police station (if any) specified by the
member of the police force or other person
who requested its production.
In short you need to have an excuse that they will accept, you need to sign a piece of paper so they have a copy of your signature to check against AND you need to produce it, at a police station within 7 days.
If the police officer decides to not accept your 'excuse' for forgetting your licence, you're boned.
If you're on a probationary licence and cannot produce it, you're stuffed no matter what happens.
You should never knowingly break the law hoping to get away with it, you should always assume that if you break the road law you'll get caught. Find a copy of the demerit points scheme from your relevant state authority and make a note of how many points you'd lose from each of the things you'd do. One of my mates used to speed everywhere, stop signs the whole nine yards. Until I told him that in one trip we did to the pizza shop just down the road from his place he would have lost 10 points, more than $1500 AND would have had his car confiscated under the new road laws. That sort of woke him up a bit.
To give you a rough run down, and these are the ones that I can remember at the moment (for Victoria)
Speeding by less than 10kph over the posted limit = 1pt
Speeding by more than 10kph but less than 20kph over the posted limit = 3pts
Speeding by more than more than 15kph in a 110kph zone = Licence suspension
Failing to stop for a stop sign = 3pts (a 'stop' is defined as coming to a DEAD stop, not just rolling up to it)
Failing to stop for a red light = 3pts
Using a mobile phone while driving = 3pts (use is defined as using any of the functions of the phone, even picking it up and hanging up is defined as use)
There are significant monetary penalties to go with each one of them as well...but remember if you drop 12 demerit points in any 36 month period you can have your licence revoked. If you are on a probationary licence and drop 5 points in any 12 month period your licence will be revoked.
If you ever catch yourself doing something really stuipd and almost getting caught for it, try and live without your car for a week. Use public transport, try to scab lifts off mates...I think you'll start to appreciate your licence more, I know I did.
As for having cars confiscated, I'm still sifting my way through that piece of legislation (I freaking HATE reading 'legalese'), when I've read through the finer points of that law I'll let you know of stuff. |
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looking4horses
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Posted - 10 Feb 2007 : 10:39:32 PM
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| u guys are crazy... the only place to exceed the limits are on a track if u dont know that buy now u shouldnt be driving at all... |
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looking4horses
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Posted - 10 Feb 2007 : 10:41:20 PM
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| btw that includes burnouts |
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