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RabbitLegz
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 Posted - 05 Dec 2006 : 4:42:30 PM
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Hello there, i recently ran my car out of fuel which i believe has resulted in my Vn to wind up wearing a chastity belt.
i need a locksmith to unlock it for me and make my baby drive again.
Symptoms
Not long ago i would turn the key and she would start turning over and then just cut out. Repeating this process from 3-5 times would eventually start the engine and would run fine.
Now when i turn the key, nothing happens at all, except (!)dashlight symbol comes on.
Things i have Discovered/Fixed
All fuses, injectors(had to replace one), rubber fuel hose leaking (replaced), all engine related fluids and i am about to replace the fuel filter as soon i find out where it is that it goes.
Briefly doing some research i think it may be the crank angle sensor
Any thoughts to my issue are appreciated with much respect.
thanks RabbitLegz
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James Mongan
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Posted - 06 Dec 2006 : 10:32:10 AM
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| so the engine doent crank, try checking the power and earth leads to the starter motor. as for the fuel filter it hides above the diff, and absolute prick of a place to put them. |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 06 Dec 2006 : 8:11:48 PM
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There is a violet and white wire that runs from the starter relay which then joins into a violet wire to the starter motor this wire is the switching wire for the solenoid on the starter motor.
If you are getting a clicking noise when you turn the key this signal wire is fine and the starter solenoid could be sticking or the contact in the solenoid has burnt out. If there is no click then i would be tracing this wire and checking it.
As for the solenoid i am not sure if these are a repairable item so if the solenoid is burnt out then a new starter could be on the cards.
To find out if it is sticking the easiest way is to get a friend and if you can tow the car onto a set of ramps it would make it alot easier as to access the starter you need to be under the car, if not a jack and some car stands would suffice.
Now while your mate is turning the key tap on the solenoid with something heavy yet soft i.e. a lump of wood, hammer handle or a stick of adequate size.
A light to heavy tap(depending on your frame of mind at the time of striking) will loosen up the solenoid and engage the starter motor.
If neither of these work i am sorry but i am all out of ideas.
Let us know how you go. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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mouce
National Driver
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Posted - 07 Dec 2006 : 8:30:45 PM
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Doubt that it would be the CAS, they tend to only cause problems when they are hot. It's not impossible, but it's very unlikely to be it.
Since you ran the tank dry, do it right, replace the fuel filter, flush the lines and clean the injectors out. Running the tank dry dredges all the crud up off the bottom and makes a right mess of the fuel system.
The fuel filter is just in front of the tank on the drivers side chassis rail.
We'll work you through this and hopefully you'll be on the roads soon. |
Bite off more than you can chew, and chew like hell - Peter Brock (1945-2006) |
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RabbitLegz
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 5:56:50 PM
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Hello there guys, first things first... i would just like to say THANKS for all your help so far.
i dont think i will be running any cars fuel tank below empty from ths day forward. neway, i got my rig up on some jacks and seen the fuel filter right away, as i was replacing it the colour and texture of the residing fuel in the old filter somewhat startled me. It was blacky/purply with alot of what looked liked sand all throughout it
whats the best way to go about flushing the lines and cleaning the injectors i wonder?
Sweet! found the main problem
my brother and i after reading what VNSVLE had to say on the matter
got the car over the pit and started tapping the solenoid while i turned the key. Vwallah, she turned over And ticked alot but didnt quite start. im going to clean up the solenoid as best i can as soon as night falls. (too darn hot right now working in the pit )
Mad respect to James Mongan, VNSVLE and mouce.
RabbitLegz
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RabbitLegz
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 7:14:15 PM
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| Update, had a break came back to it, turned the key cranking a few times and got her going, went for a quick drive all seems to be running well. Turned it off and restarted first go! Tried again an hour later and started again without to much hassel. I'll come back tomorrow and see if it will start again. If not and it takes some more tapping of solenoid, fairly sure thats the prob. What do you guys think? Cheers |
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mouce
National Driver
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 8:07:37 PM
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Now that it's behaving a little better, get a full tank of any sort of Premium unleaded, a healthy dose of injector cleaner and half a liter of Metho. Run that through the system (just dump it in the tank and drive around like normal). The injector cleaner should help get rid of any crud jammed in there at the moment, the metho will help get rid of any water that might be in the 'sludge' or the fuel.
As a general rule, around town I fill up somewhere between 300 and 400km. Out on the open road somewhere between 400 and 500km. That way I keep as much of the crud on the bottom of the tank as possible.
Hope it keeps running for you. |
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James Mongan
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Posted - 09 Dec 2006 : 10:20:31 AM
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| Its good to hear that it's not costin u? Have fun driving |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 16 Dec 2006 : 2:20:20 PM
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| Good to hear you are having a win with the old rocket. Hope all goes well |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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