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David
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Posted - 15 May 2005 :  5:13:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message
 
Well I finally fixed a small issue with the VP after having it run like a dog for a few weeks and heaps of money with spark plugs, leads and some other stuff, I finally took it to a mate who looked at it and we discovered that it was one of the twin coils had finally died.

The way to know if the coil is dead, is to leave the car idle for a while, and then turn it off and feel the heat of the coils. If the coil is hot, then it is gone and better to get a new one. Also to conirm it, get a spark tester and hook up a lead and turn the motor on.

There was no indication apart from when you placed your foot down on the pedal the back end would shudder and sometimes while in park it would back fire. I had taken the car to a mechanic who said it was the fuel injectors and it would be better to replace them.

Well $46.00 later and the new coil was in, and it is just like the car was when I first go it. The power is back and I am able to spin the wheels on take off again.

Just thought that I would share that as most places will tell you that you need to spend all this money to get it fixed.
 

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David
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Posted - 15 May 2005 :  8:55:31 PM  Show Profile Send SlowVac a Private Message
 
There is another way to tell if the coil pack died by using a timing gun. The way is to use the attachment that connects to sparkplug 1 is to hover above the pack. The one that does not light up is dead. I know I've have the same problem and getting one of my packs repaired as we speak.
 

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Posted - 22 May 2005 :  01:50:12 AM  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
 
who fixes them, att the sparkies up here have no idea
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Posted - 22 May 2005 :  10:13:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message
 
You don't get them fixed, you just replace them as it would cost more to fix them than buying a new one.

For those in Melbourne, I got my new coil from East Coast Auto Spare 912-926 North Road, East Bentleigh. Ph: (03) 9570 6188. I got it via a friend who gets trade price, but I will ask them if they can offer members of this site some sort of discount on the parts.
 

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David
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Posted - 22 May 2005 :  10:15:17 AM  Show Profile Send SlowVac a Private Message
 
quote:
Originally posted by chevy_big_block_bro

who fixes them, att the sparkies up here have no idea


There are no real way of fixing them. I bought new coils for the VN and once I found one was a dud I returned it and got a new one.
The coils or the DFI base (Talking about the round packs) are sealed units and they can not be phyically repaired (That I know of).
The only way is to test them and see how it goes.
 

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Posted - 22 May 2005 :  11:40:36 AM  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
 
ok my vn is running like ass as well i got told by a few places that it was injectors and what not
ive also been told that it could be fuel pump hmm replaced last month (not likely) spark plugs (replaced same time) and also it might be pplug leads not sure if they got replaced

my qustion is if from what it sounds like the coil pack 1 of them might be dead does it make your car sound like an untuned 355 stroker and the world is comming to an end but you have like 1/4 of your normal power ???
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David
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Posted - 22 May 2005 :  12:13:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message
 
That is what I went through, Smokey_dj.. Also when you plant the foot when it is humming along you find it runs like a dog, then it all of a sudden goes like the clappers. At idle it should also be missing.

A nice easy way to test is while the car is at idle and in park, remove a lead (not with your hands, but as my mate did, with a plastic lead remover) from the coil pack and see if there is any spark from it. Also you can leave it run for while, and check the temp of the coil packs after you turn off the car. If the coil is hotter than the others, that is normally the cause.
 

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David
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Posted - 22 May 2005 :  4:59:51 PM  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
 
do the vn s2 coil packs (whole unit) plug straight into the s1. baceause im thinking of getting the 3 MSD coil packs that fit the s2 base
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Posted - 22 May 2005 :  5:06:39 PM  Show Profile Send SlowVac a Private Message
 
yeah it should have no problems.
 

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Posted - 24 May 2005 :  11:50:01 AM  Show Profile Send maclean_cherry a Private Message
 
I've got a VR coil pack in my Series 1.5 (which is for sale, anyone want one?)
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 :  12:28:34 AM  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
 
series 1.5?
so it is true
I must have a series 1.5
its got more little extras on the engine than the s1 but does not have the thermostat housing at the front like the s2.
I thought people were pulling my leg.... lol
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 :  10:57:00 AM  Show Profile Send SlowVac a Private Message
 
Very interesting.... a friend has a series 1.5 and he has still the old square coils and the car was bought in 1991. Think either someone changed the coils setup before you bought your car or the car was factory fitted.
 

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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 :  1:52:34 PM  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
 
Ive got the old square coils
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 :  3:45:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit TOPGEAR's Homepage  Click to see TOPGEAR's MSN Messenger address Send TOPGEAR a Private Message
 
im having similar problems. have replaced spark plugs, spark plug leads, fuel filter. the car is running like **** and feels like its missfiring a bit. i got series 2 coil packs on the series 1 engine. everyone has been saying coil packs but today i done the fault code thing and i got code 13 which is the oxygen sensor. can the oxygen sensor cause this sort of problem ?
 

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Posted - 19 Aug 2005 :  9:00:21 PM  Show Profile Send mouce a Private Message
 
Yeah, sometimes the lead to the O2 sensor dies (or the sensor itself) and it will run like crap. It can't adjust the mixtures to make it run smooth, so it just runs the 'default' values. It runs, but it isn't pretty.
 

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