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pizzadude213
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 Posted - 11 Aug 2006 : 4:10:07 PM
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hey got my first vn commodore and loving it but the this is the temp gage on it doesnt work and all so the kms to just the speedo and the fuel gage any ideas?
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trizo
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 01:41:48 AM
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| ok welcome to the site as we would say,...!alright 1st of all as far as I know these gauges are shi##y at the best of times.There is only a tiny little tak of soler on the bak of them, these have a bad habit of breaking.This may b the problem this was the case with mine!As 4 ur speedo it is most proberly been pulled apart b4 and not put bak in right!chek ur speedometer sender unit!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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pizzadude213
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 09:42:56 AM
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thanx mate i check that out and get back to ya if it not that
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pizzadude213
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 1:26:54 PM
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| hey yes i check all that looks fine and still not working any more ideas? |
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trizo
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 7:01:35 PM
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| mouce heeelllpppppp!!!!hehehehehehe |
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pizzadude213
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 8:53:37 PM
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| lol thanx mate any way dosnt over heat not getting hot been down nsw today and back to brissy still running lol laterz |
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mouce
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 : 12:23:13 PM
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Okay, trizo mentioned the main cause. The solder connections on the voltage regulator on the back of the instrument cluster dry out and crack over time. You actually need to pull the cluster out and have it half apart to check them properly. But based on what you've all discussed so far I'll assume you've done that.
There are also rare cases where for some strange reason the entire cluster just packs it in. The only way to test this is to get down to a wreckers (or find a VERY understanding mate with a VN), and try another cluster. This is also a really convenient excuse to upgrade to a Level 2 cluster (tacho, speedo, temp, fuel) as the L2 cluster just slots straight in. If you wanna do a fair bit of playing around you can get a L3 cluster in (has all the LCD screens on the bottom), but it's not worth it as far as I'm concerned.
If a second cluster still doesn't work then it's time to get up close and personal with a wiring diagram and a multimeter :)
Post up how trying another cluster goes and we'll see how we can help. |
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pizzadude213
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Posted - 14 Aug 2006 : 4:45:04 PM
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| thanx monce yeah i just have to try a nather cluster because it looks fine the old one i pulled it all apart to see but still no luck later guyz |
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mouce
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Posted - 14 Aug 2006 : 6:38:36 PM
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| Is there a chance that any part of the wiring loom has crapped itself? |
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trizo
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Posted - 14 Aug 2006 : 9:26:50 PM
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| correct me if I'm wrong but doesnt ur speed go strait 2 ur g box?wiring wouldn't stop that from workin? |
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mouce
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Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 09:44:26 AM
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It's an electronic speedo, not a mechanical one, and the speed sensor is all part of the vehicles wiring loom. Plus (and I haven't been able to confirm this) the speed sensor feeds into the ecu, because APPARENTLY there is a built in speed limiter at 220kph, the ecu eases back the fuel pressure so you can't go any faster than that.
I've only been able to test my VN, and it pulled all the way past 220kph, so I'm not sure about that one. Haven't hit the top speed of the VN either, and I don't think I will. 272kph is a little too fast for my liking :)
So in short, yeah, it goes from gearbox to speedo, and it also goes from gearbox to ecu. But since it's all electronic, it's all part of the loom, if a wire has either burnt out or just broken it could be part of it. |
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trizo
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Posted - 28 Aug 2006 : 9:16:47 PM
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wll hey there u go I forgot about the 2 little plugs speed sencers funny little things!!272kph wow!I didn't think they could do that I know 230kph in a stock 3.8 calis!was acheived by my mate on the 1/4...
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mouce
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Posted - 28 Aug 2006 : 10:11:03 PM
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Yep...272kph...I went kinda crazy one semester break and re-coded one of the cars in Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2 so that it had all the physical characteristics of the VN commodore, I managed to model the VN exec auto, the VN exec manual and the VNSS. Took me a couple of days to get it right but DAMN, they move. Then I went kinda nuts and created one that was an all wheel drive VN :) Also created a VN with 3000bhp, never went too far, too much wheel spin.
So you know, in a straight line drag over the 1/4 mile, an exec will beat a calais every time (assuming they are both stock) for the simple fact that the calais is a heavier car. |
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trizo
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Posted - 28 Aug 2006 : 10:25:52 PM
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nfs lol that sounds like fun and ye the exec is next no weight at all but he had that calais singing and ye no wheel spin just a speed test went realy well>.
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