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wombo
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 Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 10:57:45 PM
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hey guys im thinking about converting my vn v6 1985 to manual but my friends insist that i muscle up my auto but i hav no idea wat a muscled auto box is like dose anyone have any suggestions it would be realy helpfull thanx
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mouce
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 : 10:43:17 AM
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If you have your heart set on a manual there's nothing wrong with them, believe me. And as an added bonus, they are better on fuel than the auto.
When you mates talk about adding a bit of 'muscle' to the auto, I'm assuming that they are talking about putting in a shift kit.
To the best of my knowledge there are three stages of shift kits
Stage 1: Boosts the pressure in the lines inside the transmission leading to slightly faster gear changes
Stage 2: Stage 1 + Adjusts the valves inside the clutch packs so that it holds each gear longer, also makes the changes even sharper, with the foot on the floor it's quite possible for the rear wheels to 'chirp' into second.
Stage 3: Fully manual rebuild of the box, where you have to manually select the gear you want to be in. Usually accompanied by a 'rachet' shifter. It's the same as the tip-tronic setup in a lot of new cars, except not as 'smooth'. This is the setup used in serious street/drag cars. It's a manual with almost instantaneous shifts and no clutch.
If you really had a hankering to stay with an auto, I'd say a stage 2 shift kit would be really nice. If you are thinking about manual, then go for it. I've got a factory 5spd in mine, and I've driven an auto as well...I love the feel of the manual. Plus...it's got a slightly faster 100kph time than the auto, because of the way the torque convert locks up in the auto you can launch harder in the manual.
It's your car, it's your call...you have to be happy driving it. You shouldn't let your mates tell you what to do with your car. Build it the way YOU like it. |
Bite off more than you can chew, and chew like hell - Peter Brock (1945-2006) |
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wombo
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 : 7:31:14 PM
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cheers for the info bro.. well my heart is set on gtn a manual but a shift kit sounds good..
but i priced a manual conversion and they sed about $3000 unless i can fined a front cut with the gearbox computer,tailshaft and pedles in it...
how much aproxamatly is a stage 2 shift kit |
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lolo
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Posted - 06 Aug 2006 : 01:02:16 AM
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| mate you can get a full manual conversion kit on ebay for around 500 bux but then you have to factor in the cost of the actual conversion and I must say that for around 800 bux you can get a stage 2 shift kit and believe me it will chirp in third, then again if you factor in the cost of fitting it, youre looking at around a grand. That being said, ebay has a tough rebuilt T700 box with stage 2 shift kit, corvette servo etc, very strong box... bidding starts at 1300bux, buy it now is $2500, youll get it for 1500 if you bid though. Add $400 for installation and for approx $2000 this will beat your standard manual $3000 conversion and your stage 2 shift kitted box hands down. It is one tough tranny... you do the maths.... as mouce |
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lolo
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lolo
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mouce
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Posted - 06 Aug 2006 : 10:17:23 AM
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To do the conversion to manual you don't need the computer, there is no difference between the auto and the manual computer in the VN. You'll need:
Gearbox (duh),
Clutch,
Bellhousing,
Pedal box,
Clutch Pedal,
Clutch cable,
Flywheel, (maybe).
To be honest, if you were going to look at doing drag work, or even some light track work, I'd say (and I can't believe I'm about to do this), go for a manualised automatic box, it'll be better for you. If you're going to be punting around on the streets, and maybe only run the occasional quarter mile then go for the manual, it'll be smoother and use less fuel. |
Bite off more than you can chew, and chew like hell - Peter Brock (1945-2006) |
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