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tony
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 Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 4:33:57 PM
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sup its tony,
i need to finally lower my vn
the only problem is im not sure if im better off
cutting the springs or getting them compressed.
ill most probely be doing all 4 springs and also 2 lowest legal limit
as i now have 14" n im assuming when i get my 15" stockys it'll lift the car a little.
any advice would be sweet
thnx
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Joogie
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 5:28:57 PM
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| dont cut your springs!!!!! if you wanna lower it buy a full set. really they arnt that much. PLus if your gonna lower it from standard usually u gotta replace the shocks to |
Boost me, and double clutch me so i can get my. Loss of Traction! |
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trizo
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 8:08:51 PM
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| hell no cutting the springs is a big no no..youd be sfer riding with out them lol |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 8:58:15 PM
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| and to reply to the later concern, no putting 15 inch wheels on the car will not lift the car. The rolling diameter of the tyre should be exactly the same or very close to it. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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V8VNCalais
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 10:33:14 PM
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| It seem spring manufacturers put that many coils in that space for a reason. When I bought my pedders sports rider shocks, I oppted for the one with a reduced travel distance. for one Im unsure of the standard ride hight and have no idea if the springs in it are standard. and two Im still not really sure if im happy with the ride height so If I do decide on a lowering spring (That is one thats ot home made). I wont have the annoyance of the bump stops copping a beating. |
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tony
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 11:02:07 PM
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thats what i thought. it just seems everyone i know cuts there springs but yer u guys r right
stupid quetion better done right the first time.
ill go get some shocks n springs to allow the ride height i need
thanks guys. good advice
soz bout the dumb question just had to make sure
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trizo
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 11:03:02 PM
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no need to be sorry m8 you got the answer you wanted  |
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hsv_babe
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Posted - 24 Jun 2008 : 08:46:05 AM
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| defently dont cut your springs they are dangerous as anything i have them in my car and they have done so much damage to it. they also fall out if you hit certain bumps in the road, i know a guy who had cut springs in his vp and one fell out popped his tyre and ended up loosing his car to a tree. proper ones may be more money but i'd sooner pay more and no im safe |
I'd gladly push my holden than drive a bloody ford! |
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MILD50
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Posted - 24 Jun 2008 : 12:27:25 PM
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Lowered springs aren't very expensive. Shop around a bit and you can pick them up for between $100-$150 a pair.
It's just not worth the heartache of cutting them- although I'd be lying if I said I didn't go there once upon a time ;) |
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trizo
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Posted - 24 Jun 2008 : 10:37:03 PM
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| lol mild we all been there m8 thats y we say DONT DO IT PAY FOR THE NUTS! |
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tony
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Posted - 26 Jun 2008 : 10:17:19 PM
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ok lol i dont wanna lose my car to a tree but how about compressing springs ????
does this reduce there strength and also the quote i got was 100 buks for front n 100 for the rear
seems like a decent price any dramas with this ???
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trizo
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Posted - 27 Jun 2008 : 01:11:44 AM
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| what r u realy after tony a cheap fix or somthing to brag about? I'm not pulling the piss but with suspension or steering , its always best to do it right ! cut springs and welded diffs ect are good , if not realy good for drags and racing but on the normal roads is not advised! your best bet is to get some tighter shoks and leave the springs and c how you like it! but then again its you hard earnd not mine |
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trizo
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Posted - 27 Jun 2008 : 01:15:53 AM
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| and to answer vnv8calais, from memory the standard ride height for the vn was 350mm of the ground but the lowest you can go is a 100m , mind you most coppers have a issue with realy low cars! Can some 1 correct me if I'm wrong , but I'm fairl sure thats right! |
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MILD50
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Posted - 27 Jun 2008 : 11:43:32 AM
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It's 100mm at the lowest point, fully laden in SA.
It varies state to state. |
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V8VNCalais
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Posted - 27 Jun 2008 : 2:06:22 PM
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thanks Trizo and mild.
guess I could drop it another inch or two but sounds like its already lowered and the botch job that was done on my tail pipe for the roadworthy makes it hard to get ou my drive way with out grazing the tip severly.
being a near 20 year old vehicle your shocks are probably stuffed as were mine. to give you a scientific run down on your spings and shocks. springs are designed to absorb energy when you hit a bump but in absorbing the energy it has a multiplying effect. If you were to run only springs you in the end you would end up bouncing to were you are going the shock absorber is just that it takes the energy from the spring and effectively neutralises it. with this in mind when I said apparently spring manufacturers put tht many coils in a spring for a reason, that is because they have put that many coils in for a reason beleive it or not they are actually following a formula.
If you start hacking coil off, you effectively ulter the formula and purpose that that spring was designed for. I have driven a car that had cut springs in it not mine some other tools. not only was it the worst car I have ever driven but you could actually feel the directional change of the vehicle at 100Km straight road with bumps.
Im a big beleiver in you get what you pay for. To get really technical steel has many different grades many different compaounds all crystal structure. all these are contributers in to getting a good quality spring.
edited by MILD- sorry mate, It was giving me a headache reading it as a big block of text |
Edited by - MILD50 on 27 Jun 2008 3:14:01 PM |
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trizo
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Posted - 27 Jun 2008 : 3:00:16 PM
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lmao another member that eats books  crikey you been hanging out with vnsvle lol, nice write up though! |
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MILD50
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Posted - 27 Jun 2008 : 3:14:47 PM
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Where is VNSVLE? I've seen him lurking but a long time between posts.
Where are you mate? |
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trizo
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Posted - 27 Jun 2008 : 3:28:58 PM
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| lol you just missed him, he was in the forums but didnt post! |
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V8VNCalais
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Posted - 27 Jun 2008 : 8:57:15 PM
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| Im glad you like it I was holding off on it just seemed that there needed to be alittle more explanation |
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HOT38R
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Posted - 09 Aug 2008 : 3:27:50 PM
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mate spring compression and cutting is stupid, cheap king lows and monroe shocks, too easy, if you are going to go and cut or copress your springs just remember you get what you pay for.
have fun with that |
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