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OZI-HOLDEN
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Posted - 21 Jul 2007 :  7:38:14 PM  Show Profile  Click to see OZI-HOLDEN's MSN Messenger address Send OZI-HOLDEN a Private Message
 
hey quick question..

a mechanic told me that i need 2 clean the stepper motor near the at the throttle body.......

im havin a bit of trouble with this 1...


if anyone has any help.. feel free 2 give advise.
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Posted - 21 Jul 2007 :  7:56:07 PM  Show Profile  Send wombo an ICQ Message  Click to see wombo's MSN Messenger address Send wombo a Private Message
 
i never heard of it hmmmmmmmmmmmm i thought a steper moter was a thing for a home pc hahaa
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Posted - 21 Jul 2007 :  8:06:25 PM  Show Profile  Click to see nodg's MSN Messenger address Send nodg a Private Message
 
the v6 doesnt have a stepper motor he probably means the idle control unit
 

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Posted - 21 Jul 2007 :  8:40:05 PM  Show Profile  Click to see OZI-HOLDEN's MSN Messenger address Send OZI-HOLDEN a Private Message
 
yeah i havnt heard of it b4 either... and everyone i asked didnt have a clue... besides that 1 mechanic.....

but he also said i need 2 give the throttle body a clean....

carby cleaner will work on that aye...
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Posted - 21 Jul 2007 :  8:58:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
here is a link for cleaning and resetting the t/b..

http://www.vncommodore.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=394
 

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Posted - 21 Jul 2007 :  11:22:49 PM  Show Profile  Click to see OZI-HOLDEN's MSN Messenger address Send OZI-HOLDEN a Private Message
 
thanks 4 the link 2 the thread m8.....

big help
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Posted - 22 Jul 2007 :  7:30:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit ethanvn's Homepage  Click to see ethanvn's MSN Messenger address Send ethanvn a Private Message
 
hey man dont use carby cleaner it f***s the oxy sensor use throttle body cleaner! may be a couple of dollars more but works out cheaper!
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Posted - 22 Jul 2007 :  7:33:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
@ethan vn never herd of the trottle body cleaner who makes it m8?
cheers
 

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quote:
Originally posted by trizo

@ethan vn never herd of the trottle body cleaner who makes it m8?
cheers


nulon auto1 sell it
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Posted - 23 Jul 2007 :  3:55:07 PM  Show Profile  Click to see OZI-HOLDEN's MSN Messenger address Send OZI-HOLDEN a Private Message
 
alright m8 ill have a hunt around 4 it.....

coz a mechanic told me the "stepper motor" behind the throttle body was dirty and causin da prob....

dnt have a clue where / what that is... so im gunna give the throttle body a good cleanin and see if that helps

Edited by - OZI-HOLDEN on 23 Jul 2007 3:57:12 PM
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Posted - 23 Jul 2007 :  6:42:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
@ cheerz thunder!
 

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Sorry if I sound as thick as a ford nut, but on a wiring diagram in me Max Ellery repair manual it has a stepper motor down with the cruise control modual...
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I think the Stepper motor is another term for IAC (Idle air control valve) I could be wrong.
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Posted - 06 Aug 2007 :  8:12:38 PM  Show Profile  Click to see OZI-HOLDEN's MSN Messenger address Send OZI-HOLDEN a Private Message
 
na m8 i think ur on da right track.... its a small cylinder behind the throttle body.... thats wat needs 2 b cleaned...

but i still got no idea how to clean it....

should i just take da T/B off and clean it all????
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Posted - 06 Aug 2007 :  10:27:18 PM  Show Profile  Click to see nodg's MSN Messenger address Send nodg a Private Message
 
most of the time you can get away with soaking the throttle body and idle control motor a few times with the motor not running as well as a few bursts when the cars at a steady idle
 

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Nodg.
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Posted - 06 Aug 2007 :  11:42:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
dont get the carby /throttle body cleaner in the sensors!
 

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Id check the connector terminals first with a test light. You could give it a clean but i would just clean the TB and renew the IAC. I dont think it would be all that expensive. I cant find any info about cleaning them.
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Posted - 12 Aug 2007 :  8:46:10 PM  Show Profile  Click to see OZI-HOLDEN's MSN Messenger address Send OZI-HOLDEN a Private Message
 
where is the idle control motor??
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 :  06:23:11 AM  Show Profile  Click to see nodg's MSN Messenger address Send nodg a Private Message
 
theres 2 screws holding it to the side of the throttle body and has wires feeding to it, you can pinpoint it by taking off the intake piping and its directly behind the little hole in tb which will have black carbon trailing out of it
 

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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  4:14:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit MILD50's Homepage Send MILD50 a Private Message
 
Always thought stepper motor and IAC were terms that could be used interchangeably?
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  1:28:03 PM  Show Profile  Click to see OZI-HOLDEN's MSN Messenger address Send OZI-HOLDEN a Private Message
 
nodg does wat ur talkin bout usually get clogged with carbon????
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 :  11:47:00 AM  Show Profile  Visit MILD50's Homepage Send MILD50 a Private Message
 
Its not uncommon- keep in mind how old these cars are now days.

If you're feeling lazy you can give it a hit with throttle body cleaner, targetting the IAC but doing the whole throttle body while your at it. It might help and fix the problem, it might do nothing. But its worth the five minutes out of your day it takes to do it.

If it doesn't fix it, then I'd be removing it and giving it a better going over.
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Posted - 25 Aug 2007 :  3:34:06 PM  Show Profile  Click to see OZI-HOLDEN's MSN Messenger address Send OZI-HOLDEN a Private Message
 
no worries.... another bloke told me the throttle positioning sensor could be buggered.... anyone think it could cause a problem???

Edited by - OZI-HOLDEN on 25 Aug 2007 3:36:06 PM
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Posted - 26 Aug 2007 :  2:01:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit MILD50's Homepage Send MILD50 a Private Message
 
What exactly is the car doing mate? I had a quick read through the thread but couldn't see much about the actual problem. Is it rough at idle? Surging? Missing? Is there a loss of power?

i'd imagine is a mechanic has mentioned the IAC its possible the throttle position sensor could be at fault as well but it depends on the problem buddy.
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Posted - 26 Aug 2007 :  3:22:20 PM  Show Profile  Click to see nodg's MSN Messenger address Send nodg a Private Message
 
if you have an unsteady idle or starting problems id look at the iac.
 

Cheers,
Nodg.
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Posted - 27 Aug 2007 :  8:38:06 PM  Show Profile  Click to see OZI-HOLDEN's MSN Messenger address Send OZI-HOLDEN a Private Message
 
it has a real rough idle... and if ya change gears from park- drive
or drive- reverse it sounds like its about 2 cut out and sometimes it does....


a m8 of my dads told me 2 check the throttle positioning sensor..
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Posted - 27 Aug 2007 :  9:06:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit MILD50's Homepage Send MILD50 a Private Message
 
I had a similar problem and to fly in the face of conventional logic it came down to a dodgy base idle screw. It was a little stripped and over a week or so it would gradually work its way out so the base idle would drop until it would basically stall at idle.

Loctited it back in place and problem solved.

This probably isn't the same as what you're experiencing but its worth looking at EVERY option... I did until I found that little bugger was the problem!
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Posted - 28 Aug 2007 :  01:37:15 AM  Show Profile  Click to see nodg's MSN Messenger address Send nodg a Private Message
 
good ol locktight and liquidnails youve never let me down
 

Cheers,
Nodg.
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Posted - 28 Aug 2007 :  7:20:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit trizo's Homepage  Click to see trizo's MSN Messenger address Send trizo a Private Message
 
ok just thought of somthing!! is your engine a s2?? Because if so have a look if the bell mouth is still in the t/b , cause I know for a fact that they cause sh1t idle!
 

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Posted - 02 Sep 2007 :  4:08:25 PM  Show Profile  Click to see OZI-HOLDEN's MSN Messenger address Send OZI-HOLDEN a Private Message
 
na m8 its an S1....
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nodg
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Posted - 02 Sep 2007 :  5:25:55 PM  Show Profile  Click to see nodg's MSN Messenger address Send nodg a Private Message
 
the restricter gives much better idling because it is designed to distribute air evenly to all 6 cylinders
 

Cheers,
Nodg.
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