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VN Mad88
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 Posted - 21 Jan 2007 : 5:00:43 PM
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I have been reading through quite a few car magazines during the past year or so but one thing that i always find dissapointing is the lack of VN or VP's in these magazines. Why is this? I mean i know there must be a few standout out there so why is it that there is hardely any featured? In nearly every issue there is a VK, VL, VR or VS but hardly ever any VN or VP, Is it just me or is there any1 else out there who thinks the same?
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trizo
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Posted - 21 Jan 2007 : 8:54:10 PM
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dunno m8 good point!! I do know that there are vn's featured regulary in street machine .... but y they dont put out more???? after all the mighty vn is the best holden creation ever!!!! I put it down 2 lak of understanding a vn and most people proberly find the idea of doing a vn up daughnting,,,, m8 its got me beat!
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Cheese
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Posted - 22 Jan 2007 : 02:36:34 AM
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I suspect it has something to do with the VN is regarded as a bit of a joke (at least in my area anyway) No-one denies VN's can be fast (or even *real* fast) they just tend to view doing up a VN akin to doing up a Daihatsu Sirion (which I have seen *shudders*)
My theory on why the not-so-humble VN is viewed this way is because a VR or VS is a *better* vehicle (That and lets face it, bar the squared rear wheel arch, a VN doesn't look much different). Mind you I love my VN dearly, I used to own a VS, but it just didn't feel right. Could be the VN is like me, a little rough around the edges with a good heart ;) |
Don't mind me, Ive heard a lot, seen a bit, done some of it . That and Im probably not quite sober. |
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driveacarsideways
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Posted - 22 Jan 2007 : 9:46:11 PM
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I agree, we should see more VN's.
ok...so who is going to send in the formal complaint to the mag's?????..lol
I guess the cars have to be around and get publicity. If the mags don't see them they can't ask you to do a feature. |
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lolo
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 4:27:25 PM
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| I will send a formal complaint to street commodores along with pictures, 1/4 mile timeslips and dyno sheet... hopefully they will feature it..... their VN had quite a following mind you... that being said melbourne has almost as many tough VN's as VL Turbos and I believe that in another ten or so years VN's will start to be looked upon as old skool muscle.... I could be wrong |
Marcus Rogulic R.I.P (1980-2007)
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trizo
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 9:30:04 PM
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now thats the most thought out point i've read yet ..... lolo said QUOTE: That being said melbourne has almost as many tough vn's as it does vl turbo's and I believe in another ten year or so years VN's will start to be looked upon as old skool mucle.... I could be wrong
well said my brother!!!!!!!! you have a top point there! |
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trizo
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 : 9:31:25 PM
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ha sorry it not a proper quote I 'm inbetween 3 forums!
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mouce
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Posted - 24 Jan 2007 : 09:14:20 AM
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| Depending on where you live in Melbourne, the VN is already starting to take on that status. Out in the Northern suburbs, there's more VN's running around than there are VL's, they get driven harder too. |
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lolo
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Posted - 24 Jan 2007 : 7:51:09 PM
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| True but I grew up in the west... st. Albans to be precise, and that is still VL Turbo country (Turbo calais and canry yellow BT1's for drags and VN's for burnouts) actually its TURBO country lol almost evey second car has a loud blow off valve .... which is probably the reason why I chose the VN turbo path. That and the fact that 4 years ago I did a double take when I heard a turbo whistle and a loud BOV and turned around in time to jJUST make out a VN SS fly past. |
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MILD50
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Posted - 24 Jan 2007 : 10:24:50 PM
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I think the VN will always be a little under appreciated, however cars are always going to be very personal and subjective. I personally don't like the VL- which puts me in a minority- but simply love the look of the VN. I guess if it was going to reach the lofty heights of being a commodore classic it would have done it by now with the price putting them in the P plater realm.
Interestingly, I think the VN Aero and VN SS Group A will both be in the top 5 most desireable Commodores once the Commodore goes out of production.
Personally, I'm sticking with the VN (got a daily aswell of course). Hell- between my site and this one, the VN is going to live for a damn long time!
*Don't forget a VP was Summernats Grand Champion so that will go along way to getting the VN / VP more respect. |
Edited by - MILD50 on 24 Jan 2007 10:26:50 PM |
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trizo
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Posted - 24 Jan 2007 : 11:00:28 PM
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| I'm still sticking with lolo's version .... sounds plausable 2 me ,, but so does the the price range of the p-plater ,with in 2-3 years I can c these beasts becoming bigger than ben-hur!!!! |
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MILD50
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Posted - 24 Jan 2007 : 11:06:32 PM
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Well here's hoping because then we will all reap the benefits of cheaper and more specialised after market parts.
I still doubt it will happen though... |
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mikrucio
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Posted - 25 Jan 2007 : 5:48:36 PM
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VN's are on neutral ground for most people that i talk to.
They either love them. or say "yeah VN's are alright"
Noone really hates them. i mean it was turn around period in holdens life. and they did VERY well with sales and popularity. it's a large car without the large car weight. and it was pretty powerfull for back then. i remember when my parents bought one brand new. fuk every person loved it. |
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MILD50
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driveacarsideways
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Posted - 26 Jan 2007 : 3:29:02 PM
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there are some great photos in there and definately plenty of cars worthy of a feature. as far as future muscle cars go...the vn may get over looked. but we are doing our part to give vn's a worthy name.
go the might VN...COME ON |
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VN Mad88
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Posted - 27 Jan 2007 : 12:00:49 AM
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| Yep. There is a lot of nice cars in there, which i think further proves my point there are heaps of very nice VN's out there but yet you don't see them. |
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lolo
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Posted - 27 Jan 2007 : 12:21:36 AM
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| I'm absolutely sure that the AERO and Group A SS will become collectors items... even Wheels magazine said they had had an extremely high potential for a pric blowout and listed them as a car to buy and store as an investment.... as for the P-plater issue, the reason VL's have such a cult status is because they were available at P-plater prices and these P-platers worked them, which brought to light their true potential. I think the VN will go down the same path and I hate to say it but I'm also positive that the BA and BF XR6 Turbo will in 20 years also follow this trend. |
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