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James Mongan
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 Posted - 30 Dec 2006 : 12:16:50 PM
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hey can someone tell me how to get that massive steering wheel off!!!
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 30 Dec 2006 : 5:08:34 PM
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1 Right the first thing to do will be to disconnect the negative battery terminal.
2 Rermove the horn pad by pulling towards you on the corners of the pad. This should not be hard to remove.
3 Now there are couple of ways this can be done-
3.1 Remove the retaining nut and use the correct puller which can be purchased from places such as Super cheap and Autobarn for around $20 - $30. Alternatively you could make one with a piece of steel and some bolts> For 20-30 bucks though i dont think it is worth the hassle.
3.2 Undo the nut until it is flush with the end of the shaft. Now with both hands hit at the same time both sides of the back side of the steering wheel where the big chunky cross piece goes across. This may need to be done several times depending how hard you hit it. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THE NUT IS STILL ON THE SHAFT BEFORE TRYING TO REMOVE THE STEERING WHEEL(i forgot one day and just about broke my nose when the wheel came free). Once the wheel is free remove the nut and then remove the wheel
3.3 Again undo the nut until it is flush with the end of the shaft. Now using a hammer of soft material( brass, bronze, nylon) and not just a normal old hammer, get a mate to tap the end of the shaft/nut as you grip both sides of the steering wheel and pull. If you do not have a soft hammer you could also use a brass drift/punch and a normal hammer. You need to use a soft material though so you dont do any damage to the shaft or thread.
Hope this helps you out.
Good Luck.
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What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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James Mongan
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 12:25:00 PM
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| thnks i'll give it a go when im at the car nxt. |
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mouce
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 6:39:12 PM
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WHOA...STOP RIGHT THERE. Under no circumstances should you follow step 3.3.
The steering column in the VN is collapsable, so that in the event of an accident it collapses rather than stabs you through the chest. Hitting it on the nut with a hammer is a sure fire way to cause it to collapse. Doing so is a bloody expensive mistake to make. You need to get another steering column fitted as there is no way to 're-extend' the damaged one. It does NOT matter what material the hammer is made of, step 3.3 is a big no-no if you want to be able to drive your car straight away. |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 7:46:43 PM
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Not saying you are wrong mouse( which you are in no way wrong) but if done correctly this way is quite alright. It is not the actual force of the hammer but the percussion(not sure if that is the right wording but having mind blank at the moment) effect that will loosen the taper lock.
I am in no way saying that this is the best way to do it but it is an alternative. I will recommend using the correct equipment for the job though. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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driveacarsideways
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 9:59:04 PM
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don't do it hitting with a hammer will at very best drive a shock though your column into the rack and pinion. If you can't pull it off go and get the right tool for the job. Mouce is right you don't want to make the job worse as it could end up very expensive. |
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mouce
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 10:56:45 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by VNSVLE
Not saying you are wrong mouse( which you are in no way wrong) but if done correctly this way is quite alright. It is not the actual force of the hammer but the percussion(not sure if that is the right wording but having mind blank at the moment) effect that will loosen the taper lock.
I am in no way saying that this is the best way to do it but it is an alternative. I will recommend using the correct equipment for the job though.
Actually it's the force of it that does damage it. Think about being in an accident, when the steering wheel smashed against your chest, it's one massive freaking force going through it. It's designed to collapse when that happens. I know of a few people who thought it would be a good idea to use a hammer to 'shock' the wheel loose. They had to replace the steering column before they could get the wheel back on 
If you do it right the first time you'll only need to do it once. |
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trizo
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 11:00:19 PM
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| sorry guys havnt done this yet but I always thought it was 4 allen key bolts and 1 big taper lock... just undo and rip the sucker of with a puller ? |
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mouce
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 09:47:43 AM
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| ^^^A wheel puller is by far the smartest way to do it. Oh...it also happens to be the correct tool for the job. |
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driveacarsideways
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 2:18:18 PM
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but its not as much fun to use the right tool is it?
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trizo
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 5:22:34 PM
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U want to know about fun....
fun is when u ask how to do sumthing and then told the correct way but choose not to do it that way .. but insted would rather the cheap ass way and then have 2 pay more $$$ cause u stuffed the job u were doing with the wrong tools!!! hammers= damage= $$$$
u work it out!!! |
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mouce
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 6:13:27 PM
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Been there and done that trizo?
I know I have. |
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trizo
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 7:40:19 PM
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| yep m8 been workin on my vn's 4 a long time there is still a few bits that I havnt done but that will once again come down to trial and error and numerous hours on this site bugging the sh#t outa all u fella's 4 help!!! Use the right tools to do the job end of story!!!! |
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Joogie
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Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 01:40:48 AM
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i put a sports wheel on about a week ago and had no access to a puller so i was told to pull my seat right up, put my knee's on the back of the bottom of the wheel and apply a fair bit of pressure then give the top of the wheel a good quick hit on the top with your hands... worked first time and no damage what so ever, not proper way but effective i thought (of course keep the nut on or you will be in pain as stated haha) but i think because it pushes and pulls at the same time it breaks the lock it has on the tappered spine easier.
And i must say god damn is the stock wheel heavy!!! My sports one feels like heaven now, smaller and easier to use! |
Boost me, and double clutch me so i can get my. Loss of Traction! |
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trizo
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Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 09:54:46 AM
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| yeah but @joogie the point I'm trying 2 make is unless your willing to do things 1/2 arsed then be prepared if somthing brakes 2 replace the damn thing!! were as if u do it the right way wich costs about $23 off the top of my head there is no reason y anything like this should happen! get the drift!!!!! |
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Joogie
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Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 1:30:35 PM
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Ahh everyone does something half assed some time its how often you get away with it that matters ;) i agree you should do it the right way, but sometimes you dont have the tools(such as a puller) or like me had no where to go get one from. Do what you can with what you have.
And i dunno about most of you but im a 17 year old making sweet f#$k all so to spend 20 bux on something i will use once just aint in my top priorities.
yes i get the drift, but no i dont 100% agree |
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trizo
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Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 2:31:49 PM
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| fair call joogie wasnt havnt a go at any 1 just feel strongly about the issue anyway were getting right of topic!!!! :) |
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mouce
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Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 10:01:26 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Joogie
Ahh everyone does something half assed some time its how often you get away with it that matters ;) i agree you should do it the right way, but sometimes you dont have the tools(such as a puller) or like me had no where to go get one from. Do what you can with what you have.
And i dunno about most of you but im a 17 year old making sweet f#$k all so to spend 20 bux on something i will use once just aint in my top priorities.
yes i get the drift, but no i dont 100% agree
Up until the middle of last year I was a poor little uni student, and for the last six months have been looking for a job. I've still got the same casual job that got me through uni, and that's paying me SFA each week. That said, if I can go out and buy a tool for $20 to do the job right, or run the risk of having to fork out more than a hundred if I balls it up, I'll buy the right tool everytime. |
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trizo
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 12:03:50 AM
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hell yeah my brother!!!! FROM ANOTHER MOTHER LOL!!! The right ool is always there even if u can't afford it..I'm one of the most poor arses u could meet in that respect!!! use wat u got or ask around there's a mechanic of some sort in every town ,,,, were ever u b!
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Edited by - trizo on 05 Jan 2007 12:10:57 AM |
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Joogie
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 1:01:33 PM
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OK i know im gonna get ploughed for saying this but if your so into getting the job done properly and using the right tools you would get a qualified mechanic to do all your work. I know alot of you know alot about cars(especially you mouce) but as far as i know none are a qualified mechanic(or are you?). And how many $20 tools will you get and use once, it adds up... Depends on your situation i guess, comes down to personal choice. Oh and i think everytime you do work on your own car you are risking "ballsing" it up, i agree the right tool reduces the risk but the chance is still there.
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trizo
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 1:23:40 PM
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| u thought about that all night didn't u joogie!! and m8 I'm not a mechanic but I still do the job properly!! I feel taking it 2 a mechanic,( unless u absolutly haf 2) is worse 4 the fact most mech's will only do enough to get it back up running again ,,theres no garentee that the work is done right unless u go to a mechanic with a good rep! also if you have a bit of confidence and do a bit of reading u should have no trouble working on your vn!!! and besides trial and error is how u learn!!! @joggie no ploughing is needed on this 1, I just think u missed the point abit!! ;) |
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Joogie
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 1:47:21 PM
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haha nope i was out last night ;)I did what u said to and punished my liver...haha
Ill do work like the throttle body and a service but when it comes to other stuff like suspension and engine/gearbox work i prefer to leave it to professionals, like i said it really comes down to personal choice. Who really cares in the long run as long as the work is done and the cars goes. |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 4:32:28 PM
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Living on a farm i have been a mechanic all my life but as a paying job for about the last 5 years i have been a mechanic/diesel fitter. Living on the farm taught me quite a few bad habits. I will do all of my own work, there is no way i will pay $50-$150 an hour for someone to more than likely(ie the Local holden dealership where i live) do a dodgy job. But i suppose all that said it is up to the individual to wheather or not they trust their local mechanic enough to do the job.
There thats my 2 cents worth Hehehe |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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trizo
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 7:03:58 PM
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| he he enough now back on topic!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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driveacarsideways
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 9:14:43 PM
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topic??? what topic???...oh,
did you get the wheel off in the end?
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James Mongan
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 10:56:04 AM
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yeh,i went to autobarn and brought the puller $12. went home put it on atarted doing it up and it get freakin tight i thought that the puller was going to snap, gave it a little more and BAMMMM off it came, thank goodness for the nut on the end or that was going to be painful.
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trizo
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 11:26:20 AM
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c!!!!!!!! $12 not $20 wasnt that bad was it fella's
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driveacarsideways
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 6:34:28 PM
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...and it worked too. thats always a bargan.
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trizo
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 8:39:35 PM
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it will always work, thats y its called the right way!!!! lol
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