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baalamb20
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 Posted - 20 Mar 2008 : 10:41:39 AM
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Hi guys,
My car stalled on me a few times last night and when i checked the codes this morning it gave me code 42, but this morning it seems to be driving ok, does it mean the coil pack is dead, and i went to my mechanic and he said i would have to take it to an auto electrician which is gonna cost a fortune wouldn't it be better just to replace the coil pack, anyone else had this problem?
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nodg
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Posted - 20 Mar 2008 : 12:04:09 PM
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| est mode is controlled by the ignition module, first check for a loose plug connecting the unit, also unplug and replug them to ensure a good earth is being made, if that fails it sounds like your up for another ignition module. just get a second hand coilpack from the wreckers(which has the module built in) and try it, if it still stalls then check for broken connections in the wiring |
Cheers,
Nodg. |
Edited by - nodg on 20 Mar 2008 12:13:27 PM |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 20 Mar 2008 : 9:31:29 PM
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I am sorry to repeat myself but spend $30 on a manual and $20 on a multimeter if you dont have one already and follow the test proceedures. It may save you alot of money. If you really dont want to buy a manual i could run you through a few test proceedures. Just throwing money at it is not the best solution. You could spend hundreds on unnecessary parts and not fix the problem. Before replacing the coil pack make sure without a doubt that you need to.
Sorry for raving on just my 2 cents worth. You can chose to ignore what I am saying or take it on board. Upto you really dont bother me either way.
Good luck buddy  |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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baalamb20
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 2:38:19 PM
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| Hi guys sorry I took so long, I do have a manual but i don't understand the testing side, sticking some **** on a brown wire and then something else, when it came up with code 42 I took it to the Auto Electrics and they ran a scan and they said my Crank sensor needs replacing so i did and $280 later and it stalls again this time giving me code 41 and 42, i'm just gonna get the coil pack replaced anyway,I'm sure as hell not gonna buy a new one for $500, its a pain in the ass I start my new job on Wednesday and wont be able to pay for a coil pack till saturday. I'm getting so sick to death of this car. |
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baalamb20
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 2:41:42 PM
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| oh and also, stalled 3 times getting the freeway, on the freeway its perfect then getting off the freeway it plays up again, does this mean anything? |
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trizo
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 5:36:23 PM
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| vacum leak? cracked head gasket maybe? |
3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead |
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nodg
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 9:19:28 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by baalamb20
oh and also, stalled 3 times getting the freeway, on the freeway its perfect then getting off the freeway it plays up again, does this mean anything?
were you using more than half throttle getting to the highway and getting off??? could be a heat related problem messing with electronics, a throttle issue, or pure coincidence.. it does sound like either dfi module or cas. |
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baalamb20
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 10:24:04 PM
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| No wasn't using more throttle, I'll open the coil pack in the morning and have a look,I'm guessing it's the coil pack cause all my problems started with a faulty lead on the coil pack, and when i got that replaced it was fine for a few days then started stalling again, for a while it stalled more times at night than during the day but today proved me wrong, CAS is fine just got that replaced thought it was the problem if I got code 42, why did the auto guy tell me it was the CAS i though that was code 41, now getting both 41 and 42 |
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baalamb20
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 10:39:45 PM
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| this might sound like a stupid question but when i had my spark leads replaced the leads seem the wrong size they are very tight and there is one lead that leans against one of the silver pipes on the drivers side part of the engine if that gets hot would that cause the lead to lose spark? |
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nodg
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 10:49:17 PM
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| yeah that would be alright having a lead lean on a heat source, but as for the configuration of the leads, remove the one(s) that are too short (and too long) then switch them around so the leads arent rubbing on a heat source. now with the stalling prblem, does it happen on hotter days or on longer trips more than at night and shorter trips? |
Cheers,
Nodg. |
Edited by - nodg on 23 Mar 2008 10:51:58 PM |
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baalamb20
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 11:00:41 PM
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| when i start the car in the morning, it will normally drive ok for about 15minutes then will start to stall, i can usually start it straight away but will stall again but if i pull over for a few minutes with the engine off and start again it will drive ok until the next time, the stalling happens more at night on short trips but when i went to Hornsby on the freeway the other night it was fine until i pulled up at the lights at the end, it's like if it gets a constant run its fine, unless that was a coincidence, when it stalls it feels like you are going around a corner with hardly any petrol, but had fuel system checked, and all it would scan would be 41 and 42 |
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nodg
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Posted - 23 Mar 2008 : 11:10:36 PM
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| definately sounds like either dodgy cas or dfi/coil related.... your better off replacing the lot anyway to reduce the chance of misfortune later on in the cars life. |
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Nodg. |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 24 Mar 2008 : 12:43:18 AM
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| Again nodg throwing money at it is NOT the answer. Perform the appropriate tests to identify the problem and replace the component that is needed. Fair enough replacing everything now would be ideal but very costly and it may fix the problem but you wont know what it was that fixed the problem. During my apprenticeship i learnt that trial and error is never the best way. Buying the manual and test equipment will save you alot of money in the long run. It may be a bit more work for you but well worth it. If you need any help at all dont be afraid to ask. I am here to help in anyway I can. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
Edited by - VNSVLE on 24 Mar 2008 12:45:10 AM |
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nodg
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Posted - 24 Mar 2008 : 02:18:01 AM
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| a test in this situation is pointless unless you can get the car to play up while idling in a garage, otherwise the autoelectrition would have pinpointed the problem when they did the 'scan'. if he could get it to stall while doing the test it would be easier. if he has already done the cas then it doesnt leave too much to look at |
Cheers,
Nodg. |
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trizo
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nodg
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trizo
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Posted - 25 Mar 2008 : 01:47:02 AM
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| hey had to do something , I meen I could see the nails about to come out ... lmfao |
3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead |
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baalamb20
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Posted - 28 Mar 2008 : 11:10:04 AM
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| tehehe sorry guys, fixed the problem it was the coil pack, kept stalling when i wiggled the dfi cable, got s2 coil pack too, heaps better |
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